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Thrive versus Convertri

The ultimate side by side showdown

Thrive versus Convertri

The ultimate side by side showdown

Introduction

Everyone is talking about Converti versus Thrive and both are great bits of software but both are completely different. This page dedicates itself to going through the actual benefits side by side.

If this is too much for you I have a simple page where we look at which website builder will suit your needs 

Before we begin, please keep in mind that THRIVE has many products to do different things whereas Convertri has everything in one place, so throughout the comparison I will be referring to the different plugins available for Wordpress from Thrive.

Warning: There is alot of information here so if you get overwhelmed email me below and I can help you. This goes through to my personal email

I try to be as honest as I can about both products, if they deserve a bashing then I deliver it, if they deserve a compliment I deliver it....

Introduction

Everyone is talking about Converti versus Thrive and both are great bits of software but both are completely different. This page dedicates itself to going through the actual benefits side by side.

If this is too much for you I have a simple page where we look at which website builder will suit your needs 

Before we begin, please keep in mind that THRIVE has many products to do different things whereas Convertri has everything in one place, so throughout the comparison I will be referring to the different plugins available for Wordpress from Thrive.

Warning: There is alot of information here so if you get overwhelmed email me below and I can help you. This goes through to my personal email

I try to be as honest as I can about both products, if they deserve a bashing then I deliver it, if they deserve a compliment I deliver it....

ASK ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE

If you are experiencing frustration please let me assist you by asking me any questions you like because I have been exactly where you are now.

Just ask me your questions. I’m serious. Tell me what you are wanting to achieve, your business aspirations and I’ll do my best to point you in the right direction based on my own experiences with helping hundreds of people over the years.

ASK ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE

If you are experiencing frustration please let me assist you by asking me any questions you like because I have been exactly where you are now.

Just ask me your questions. I’m serious. Tell me what you are wanting to achieve, your business aspirations and I’ll do my best to point you in the right direction based on my own experiences with helping hundreds of people over the years.

How I FEEL about Convertri Versus Thrive software

How I FEEL about Convertri Versus Thrive software

How I feel about Convertri

Overall feeling A+++

How I feel about Convertri

Overall feeling A+++

How I feel about Thrive

Overall feeling B-

How I feel about Thrive

Overall feeling B-

Not sure if you know what it is like to have feelings for a bit of software, sounds a bit weird really but if I don't feel great about the product I am using, I can't really do my job and be happy at the same time, and thats not good for anybody. 

Feelings come from all the little things that happened every day, the little bugs that go unfixed or are fixed quickly, the contact you have with support team that overwhelms you and so on. Its important to me and I make a lot of judgement calls based on how I feel about a person or a product, and this has served me well over the years. 

Not sure if you know what it is like to have feelings for a bit of software, sounds a bit weird really but if I don't feel great about the product I am using, I can't really do my job and be happy at the same time, and thats not good for anybody. 

Feelings come from all the little things that happened every day, the little bugs that go unfixed or are fixed quickly, the contact you have with support team that overwhelms you and so on. Its important to me and I make a lot of judgement calls based on how I feel about a person or a product, and this has served me well over the years. 

I love Convertri. There is so much to love. Everything is under one bonnet, no plugins to update, no security hassles, no wordpress spam bots, no website "breakages" through plugin updates, no bugs and if there are bugs they are fixed in record time and I mean record time, plus reporting the bugs takes seconds on the facebook group page rather than the labour intensive method used by Thrive. 

Convertri is just awesome! 

The team at Convertri  are very special people (Particularly Andrew Fletcher and Neil Morton) who go out of their way every day to satisfy their clients. 

Nothing is too much trouble for them and they are truely dedicated to making Convertri the best website builder software on the planet.

Their support style is to always be open and transparent. If they have made a mistake they admit it and fix it. Its awesome to see such transparency in software developers .

In fact I have never seen such transparency with developers ever. The Convertri Facebook group is very active and most bugs are reported via here with responses within the hour, and fixes reported back that week. (they do sleep at night like all of us so it might not be an hour)

The bugs are few and far between but they happen and will continue to happen as the software matures.

Bugs are not the problem, all software gets bugs as it grows, the problem is not fixing them. Convertri fixes bugs fast! 

I love Convertri. There is so much to love. Everything is under one bonnet, no plugins to update, no security hassles, no wordpress spam bots, no website "breakages" through plugin updates, no bugs and if there are bugs they are fixed in record time and I mean record time, plus reporting the bugs takes seconds on the facebook group page rather than the labour intensive method used by Thrive. 

Convertri is just awesome! 

The team at Convertri  are very special people (Particularly Andrew Fletcher and Neil Morton) who go out of their way every day to satisfy their clients. 

Nothing is too much trouble for them and they are truely dedicated to making Convertri the best website builder software on the planet.

Their support style is to always be open and transparent. If they have made a mistake they admit it and fix it. Its awesome to see such transparency in software developers .

In fact I have never seen such transparency with developers ever. The Convertri Facebook group is very active and most bugs are reported via here with responses within the hour, and fixes reported back that week. (they do sleep at night like all of us so it might not be an hour)

The bugs are few and far between but they happen and will continue to happen as the software matures.

Bugs are not the problem, all software gets bugs as it grows, the problem is not fixing them. Convertri fixes bugs fast! 

Thrive have a lot of products, some that seem very similar in fact. It can be overwhelming to say the least trying to figure out the differences and frustrating that you need more than one sometimes. 

Which is why Thrive like to promote their Membership area which gives you everything and takes away the decision making for one a great price

Gripes: Thrive have a support forum that costs $40 per year (first year free) and this is fine sort of. 

I don't really like paying for support if I am honest, as the times I need it is due to faults within the software, and nothing that I have done.

Coupled with this when reporting bugs on the forum the team often blame other plugins on Wordpress which is an easy way to say its not their fault and they can't be bothered looking at it. Its very annoying and as shown below in the video there is a bug still present that I reported over a year ago and still not fixed.

I do however love aspects of Thrive software, I use it most days and it plays an important role in my affiliate business, but there are bugs in some of the products, and they still remain unfixed years later.

Thrive products are ALL installed on Wordpress so you do your own hosting basically and maintain your site. The plugins are updated regularly so you need to update yours too. This involves logging in to all your sites and updating the Thrive Theme and the Plugins manually.

Updates are a good thing but they can be annoying too particularly when they break things on your your site (which happens to me frequently) 

Thrive have a lot of products, some that seem very similar in fact. It can be overwhelming to say the least trying to figure out the differences and frustrating that you need more than one sometimes. 

Which is why Thrive like to promote their Membership area which gives you everything and takes away the decision making for one a great price

Gripes: Thrive have a support forum that costs $40 per year (first year free) and this is fine sort of. 

I don't really like paying for support if I am honest, as the times I need it is due to faults within the software, and nothing that I have done.

Coupled with this when reporting bugs on the forum the team often blame other plugins on Wordpress which is an easy way to say its not their fault and they can't be bothered looking at it. Its very annoying and as shown below in the video there is a bug still present that I reported over a year ago and still not fixed.

I do however love aspects of Thrive software, I use it most days and it plays an important role in my affiliate business, but there are bugs in some of the products, and they still remain unfixed years later.

Thrive products are ALL installed on Wordpress so you do your own hosting basically and maintain your site. The plugins are updated regularly so you need to update yours too. This involves logging in to all your sites and updating the Thrive Theme and the Plugins manually.

Updates are a good thing but they can be annoying too particularly when they break things on your your site (which happens to me frequently) 

Buying Experience

Buying Experience

I love buying software, a habit I have had to reign in this year so I can focus 100% on my business :-) and with Convertri I don't need other bits of software, so that has helped with my addiction :-)

I love buying software, a habit I have had to reign in this year so I can focus 100% on my business :-) and with Convertri I don't need other bits of software, so that has helped with my addiction :-)

Convertri   A++

Convertri   A++

Thrive Products   B

Thrive Products   B

Monthly rate: $59 to $199 per month 

PS You will need to click here to get the 

$39-00 deal via the Backdoor special

As you can see having everything under the one hood is a bit easier to use and make a decision on. 

The pricing will vary if you are an agency or just a small business looking to build one site. You can upgrade at any time too.

  • Instant signup and your account will be set up for you in a few hours.  
  • No fast tracking with Convertri. (Not needed in my opinion as the training is excellent.
  • Very relaxed environment
  • 14 day trial for 0.01 cent    Usually $59 per month but get a deal by clicking here 
  • Free SSL Certificate
  • Hosting Included in price
  • Great Tutorial Videos
  • Very active Facebook Members Group
  • Discounts here   Save $20 per month
  • Setup is very easy. Takes 5 minutes

Monthly rate: $59 to $199 per month 

PS You will need to click here to get the 

$39-00 deal via the Backdoor special

As you can see having everything under the one hood is a bit easier to use and make a decision on. 

The pricing will vary if you are an agency or just a small business looking to build one site. You can upgrade at any time too.

  • Instant signup and your account will be set up for you in a few hours.  
  • No fast tracking with Convertri. (Not needed in my opinion as the training is excellent.
  • Very relaxed environment
  • 14 day trial for 0.01 cent    Usually $59 per month but get a deal by clicking here 
  • Free SSL Certificate
  • Hosting Included in price
  • Great Tutorial Videos
  • Very active Facebook Members Group
  • Discounts here   Save $20 per month
  • Setup is very easy. Takes 5 minutes

Monthly rate : For all products from $30 if you pay a year in one lump sum or click here for the special rate

Thrive Leads   $67 for one site or $19 per month paying annually for multiple sites

Thrive Architect  $67 for one site or $19 per month paying annually for multiple sites

Thrive Landing Pages     $67 for one site or $19 per month paying annually for multiple sites

  • Instant signup and your account will be set up for you in a few hours.
  • Access to Thrive University  if you want some advanced training
  • Very corporate environment
  • No trial but offer a money back warranty within 30 days
  • No SSL Certificate
  • No hosting offered
  • Great Tutorial Videos
  • No Facebook Members Group
  • No Discounts
  • Setup is very easy (Plugins on Wordpress)
  • Alot of products to choose from which is confusing and the reason for my B score

Monthly rate : For all products from $30 if you pay a year in one lump sum or click here for the special rate

Thrive Leads   $67 for one site or $19 per month paying annually for multiple sites

Thrive Architect  $67 for one site or $19 per month paying annually for multiple sites

Thrive Landing Pages     $67 for one site or $19 per month paying annually for multiple sites

  • Instant signup and your account will be set up for you in a few hours.
  • Access to Thrive University  if you want some advanced training
  • Very corporate environment
  • No trial but offer a money back warranty within 30 days
  • No SSL Certificate
  • No hosting offered
  • Great Tutorial Videos
  • No Facebook Members Group
  • No Discounts
  • Setup is very easy (Plugins on Wordpress)
  • Alot of products to choose from which is confusing and the reason for my B score

Support

Support

As the business grew the support was a bit lack lustre however in Jan 2018 a new support system was introduced and now the support is excellent. Also the owners of the business (Neil and Andrew) both answer questions along with the support team.

It took a while for the support to improve and every now and then you need to give them a push but overall I am loving the support 

As the business grew the support was a bit lack lustre however in Jan 2018 a new support system was introduced and now the support is excellent. Also the owners of the business (Neil and Andrew) both answer questions along with the support team.

It took a while for the support to improve and every now and then you need to give them a push but overall I am loving the support 

Overall I don't find Thrive support very helpful with my queries. I still have bugs unresolved from tickets put in 1 year ago and alot of my questions were fobbed off by saying the issue is caused by a "Plugin Clash" which I do not find helpful. 

Add to this that I have to pay $40 a year for the pleasure I am giving a low score . Having said that they do always answer your question within 24 hours, but not always what you want to here.

Overall I don't find Thrive support very helpful with my queries. I still have bugs unresolved from tickets put in 1 year ago and alot of my questions were fobbed off by saying the issue is caused by a "Plugin Clash" which I do not find helpful. 

Add to this that I have to pay $40 a year for the pleasure I am giving a low score . Having said that they do always answer your question within 24 hours, but not always what you want to here.

Convertri   A+

Convertri   A+

Thrive Products  C

Thrive Products  C

Features

Features

Wow this is a tough one as the list is so long and there are so many features in both products, plus there are so products to choose from in Thrive Themes so I have tossed and turned on what to say here. I ended up comparing what I consider to be the important things and lets be clear that I don't use everything on both products but I have used most features. 

I also need to be clear on what I am comparing to. So here goes 

Wow this is a tough one as the list is so long and there are so many features in both products, plus there are so products to choose from in Thrive Themes so I have tossed and turned on what to say here. I ended up comparing what I consider to be the important things and lets be clear that I don't use everything on both products but I have used most features. 

I also need to be clear on what I am comparing to. So here goes 

Autoresponders Integrations: Convertri

Convetri has a unique system for adding forms which works brilliantly and means you can add any autoresponder with out an API Integration.

Convertri is adding  APIs and currently that is Aweber, Mailchimp, Getresponse, Active Campaign, Sendlane, Drip, Infusionsoft, Convertkit and more being added weekly. 

Personally I just use the HTML element which I find equally as fast!

Web Hosting: Convertri

Convertri offer the best web hosting I have seen on the planet. It is included in the monthly fee and is very, very fast on mobile and desktop.

AB Split Testing: Convertri

This is included in their standard package for all sales funnels. Results are shown in the dashboard in a simple manner. 

It is a simple to use inbuilt system and works brilliantly. The only downside is Convertri retains data once the winning page is selected which means the other pages data is lost.

Inbuilt Shopping Cart: YES

Convertri has an API connection with Stripe built within the software which makes selling products a breeze.

At the time of writing this Paypal is weeks away from the final integration and will be added soon.

Ease of Use with Page Editor: Convertri

Convertri is a drag and drag free form editor which means you can drag any component anywhere you like on the page. 

There is also an option to build pages using layers which means you can overlay some very flash things that look like a top developer has done them.

Mobile Pages: Convertri 

Convertri gives you full control of mobile view, a big plus in my eyes. It allows elements to be seen or not seen on mobile and desktop which means you have 100% control of the mobile view. There is no "text editor" for mobile so what ever text you have on desktop is what shows, so if you want certain text or images shown on mobile only you just unselect "desktop" too easy !!

Upsells, down sells and so on

The Convertri feature of an Integrated shopping cart lets you create 1-click upsells, downsells and set up subscriptions, trials, and even use bump offers to get your funnels working effectively and producing sales. At the time of wrting the cart was connected with Stripe but Paypal is being introduced shortly​

Media Storage

Converti host all image files with no limits, however video files are hosted off site (Amazon S3 or Youtube or Vimeo are recommended)

Two Step Opt Ins

Convertri has a brilliant system for creating one step or two step optins which relies on the API integration of an autoresponder or manually using autoresponder code

After and In Content Opt-in Forms

When browsing content Convertri has the option of  a"mouse over" or a "click" which can trigger a "layer" to respond. 

The "layer" can be an opt in popup with form linked to your favourite autoresponder, or just a form

Navigate within IFrame

Convertri has a fantastic feature called "navigating within Iframe' which means you can use your pages within software programmes such as Product Dyno so you can create pages within Convertri and then password protect them with Product Dyno. This is perfect for building "Intranets" for small to medium sized companies or a great way to share downloads and product news for Franchises

Autoresponders Integrations: Convertri

Convetri has a unique system for adding forms which works brilliantly and means you can add any autoresponder with out an API Integration.

Convertri is adding  APIs and currently that is Aweber, Mailchimp, Getresponse, Active Campaign, Sendlane, Drip, Infusionsoft, Convertkit and more being added weekly. 

Personally I just use the HTML element which I find equally as fast!

Web Hosting: Convertri

Convertri offer the best web hosting I have seen on the planet. It is included in the monthly fee and is very, very fast on mobile and desktop.

AB Split Testing: Convertri

This is included in their standard package for all sales funnels. Results are shown in the dashboard in a simple manner. 

It is a simple to use inbuilt system and works brilliantly. The only downside is Convertri retains data once the winning page is selected which means the other pages data is lost.

Inbuilt Shopping Cart: YES

Convertri has an API connection with Stripe built within the software which makes selling products a breeze.

At the time of writing this Paypal is weeks away from the final integration and will be added soon.

Ease of Use with Page Editor: Convertri

Convertri is a drag and drag free form editor which means you can drag any component anywhere you like on the page. 

There is also an option to build pages using layers which means you can overlay some very flash things that look like a top developer has done them.

Mobile Pages: Convertri 

Convertri gives you full control of mobile view, a big plus in my eyes. It allows elements to be seen or not seen on mobile and desktop which means you have 100% control of the mobile view. There is no "text editor" for mobile so what ever text you have on desktop is what shows, so if you want certain text or images shown on mobile only you just unselect "desktop" too easy !!

Upsells, down sells and so on

The Convertri feature of an Integrated shopping cart lets you create 1-click upsells, downsells and set up subscriptions, trials, and even use bump offers to get your funnels working effectively and producing sales. At the time of wrting the cart was connected with Stripe but Paypal is being introduced shortly​

Media Storage

Converti host all image files with no limits, however video files are hosted off site (Amazon S3 or Youtube or Vimeo are recommended)

Two Step Opt Ins

Convertri has a brilliant system for creating one step or two step optins which relies on the API integration of an autoresponder or manually using autoresponder code

After and In Content Opt-in Forms

When browsing content Convertri has the option of  a"mouse over" or a "click" which can trigger a "layer" to respond. 

The "layer" can be an opt in popup with form linked to your favourite autoresponder, or just a form

Navigate within IFrame

Convertri has a fantastic feature called "navigating within Iframe' which means you can use your pages within software programmes such as Product Dyno so you can create pages within Convertri and then password protect them with Product Dyno. This is perfect for building "Intranets" for small to medium sized companies or a great way to share downloads and product news for Franchises

Autoresponders Integrations: Thrive

Thrive relies on APIs to integrate with Autoresponder companies and they have many set up  Aweber, Mailchimp, Getresponse, Active Campaign, Sendlane, Drip, Infusionsoft, Convertkit Arp Reach, Constant Contact, Hubspot, Icontact, Kicktopp, Mailerlite, Mail Poet, Mail Relay and more.

Web Hosting: Thrive

Thrive currently only offer plugins and themes to integrate with Wordpress, their is no online hosting of content

AB Split Testing: Convertri

Currently only offered on Thrive Leads and this needs to be integrated with Thrive Architect to enable the other lightbox features and exit intents page templates etc. At the time of writing they have released Thrive Optimise  which is for integrating with Thrive Architect...confused?? 

I sure am, so many different plugins that cross over

Inbuilt Shopping Cart: NO

Thrive relies on third party gateway plugins for taking payments. This has many issues particularly around notifications which are generated on the host server.

Ease of Use with Page Editor: Thrive 

Thrive's editor is based on element blocks which are dragged into place but are restricted on the page of where they can go due to built in page width code. This can make building a page very frustrating. I have also found the Thrive Architect plugin to be quite buggy in the editor.

Mobile Pages: Thrive

Thrive does not have a separate mobile editor which can be a right pain in the backside. The mobile view is automated by Thrive and can be great some times or not great. There are some element adjusters that have limited abilities to move content up and down, or side to side but this usually ends up screwing up another part of the layout on desktop for me.  

The main frustration for me is the mobile menu icon which takes up too much room and wastes a lot of space in prime real estate at the top of the page in mobile view.

Upsells, down sells and so on

Not available at this stage and a third party plugin is recommended. No On-Page Payment System Integration available

Media Storage

No storage offered as Thrive do not host anything 

Two Step Opt Ins

Thrive also has a brilliant system for creating one step or two step optins which is down via their Lightbox system and a easy to do integration with your autoresponder.

After and In Content Opt-in Forms

Thrive Themes and Thrive Plugins use a "lightbox" system for creating optin forms and timer based forms. While the system works well if you create a lightbox from the main menu, creating the same within the page, leads to alot of frustration as the page does not recognise the url Argh!!

Navigate within IFrame

There is no ability to use this feature as Thrive is a self hosted product unlike Convertri which is hosted on their servers (Which are very fast)

Autoresponders Integrations: Thrive

Thrive relies on APIs to integrate with Autoresponder companies and they have many set up  Aweber, Mailchimp, Getresponse, Active Campaign, Sendlane, Drip, Infusionsoft, Convertkit Arp Reach, Constant Contact, Hubspot, Icontact, Kicktopp, Mailerlite, Mail Poet, Mail Relay and more.

Web Hosting: Thrive

Thrive currently only offer plugins and themes to integrate with Wordpress, their is no online hosting of content

AB Split Testing: Convertri

Currently only offered on Thrive Leads and this needs to be integrated with Thrive Architect to enable the other lightbox features and exit intents page templates etc. At the time of writing they have released Thrive Optimise  which is for integrating with Thrive Architect...confused?? 

I sure am, so many different plugins that cross over

Inbuilt Shopping Cart: NO

Thrive relies on third party gateway plugins for taking payments. This has many issues particularly around notifications which are generated on the host server.

Ease of Use with Page Editor: Thrive 

Thrive's editor is based on element blocks which are dragged into place but are restricted on the page of where they can go due to built in page width code. This can make building a page very frustrating. I have also found the Thrive Architect plugin to be quite buggy in the editor.

Mobile Pages: Thrive

Thrive does not have a separate mobile editor which can be a right pain in the backside. The mobile view is automated by Thrive and can be great some times or not great. There are some element adjusters that have limited abilities to move content up and down, or side to side but this usually ends up screwing up another part of the layout on desktop for me.  

The main frustration for me is the mobile menu icon which takes up too much room and wastes a lot of space in prime real estate at the top of the page in mobile view.

Upsells, down sells and so on

Not available at this stage and a third party plugin is recommended. No On-Page Payment System Integration available

Media Storage

No storage offered as Thrive do not host anything 

Two Step Opt Ins

Thrive also has a brilliant system for creating one step or two step optins which is down via their Lightbox system and a easy to do integration with your autoresponder.

After and In Content Opt-in Forms

Thrive Themes and Thrive Plugins use a "lightbox" system for creating optin forms and timer based forms. While the system works well if you create a lightbox from the main menu, creating the same within the page, leads to alot of frustration as the page does not recognise the url Argh!!

Navigate within IFrame

There is no ability to use this feature as Thrive is a self hosted product unlike Convertri which is hosted on their servers (Which are very fast)

See below to see one of the many reasons I moved from Thrive to Convertri 

See below to see one of the many reasons I moved from Thrive to Convertri 

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